Today’s podcast is a conversation with Jonathan Tropper. Jonathan and I met when he pitched me an idea for a Cinemax show called Banshee. We worked together on that series and on his most recent Cinemax series Warrior. I asked Jonathan to join me for this conversation for two reasons: First, Banshee explores ideas of crime and justice in ways that are very unique in the television landscape. It is a violent and pulpy show that also examines the existential toll taken by deceit and betrayal. Second, Banshee is the show that connected me to William Barr, the man who is now Attorney General of the United States, and with whose interview I launched the Crime Story podcast. Towards the end of this interview, I give Jonathan a chance to reflect on the Attorney General‘s thoughts about his show.

You can find the transcript to our conversation here.